<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Keith's Schoolbus Conversion Blog &#187; Electrical</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus/?cat=8&#038;feed=rss2" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 00:24:33 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3</generator>
		<item>
		<title>Solar Trickle Charger</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus/?p=169</link>
		<comments>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus/?p=169#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>neufeld</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Electrical]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus/?p=169</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The bus has been parked for a year and a half due to a brake caliper seizing. For much of that time, the keys have been at Neighbor Dan&#8217;s shop and he&#8217;s been waiting to fit it into his repair schedule. That&#8217;s a topic for another day; but for now, let&#8217;s talk battery charging. Car [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bus has been parked for a year and a half due to a brake caliper seizing.  For much of that time, the keys have been at Neighbor Dan&#8217;s shop and he&#8217;s been waiting to fit it into his repair schedule.  That&#8217;s a topic for another day; but for now, let&#8217;s talk battery charging.</p>
<p>Car batteries left alone and unused tend to self-discharge, but the bus&#8217;s starting battery seems to discharge a little faster than I can account for just from disuse.  I&#8217;ve kept my van battery topped off with a $15 solar trickle charger from Harbor Freight, and I <a href="/electronics/?p=1408">recently modified one to use in the bus</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2011/07/04/DSCN8333.jpg"><img src="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2011/07/04/DSCN8333_mid.jpg" alt="Bus battery with trickle charger wiring" /></a></p>
<p>The bus&#8217;s battery compartment is below and behind the driver and is accessible through a door in the bus&#8217;s apron.  In the long term, I&#8217;ll be routing much heavier DC wiring throughout the interior; but for charging, I ran a 4&#8242; section of 18-gauge two-conductor cable out the back of the battery compartment and up through a hole the previous owner had made in the floor.</p>
<p>I put a 1A fuse inline with the positive terminal connection, as the 120mA solar charger should never come near that much current and I would prefer the 18-gauge wire not become a fuse during a short-circuit.  I can easily change the 1A fuse out for a larger one later.</p>
<p><a href="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2011/07/04/DSCN8337.jpg"><img src="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2011/07/04/DSCN8337_mid.jpg" alt="Anderson Power Pole wiring in schoolbus RV conversion" /></a></p>
<p>The cable emerges from the floor behind the driver&#8217;s seat, where I terminated it in Anderson Power Poles.  The battery is deeply discharged &#8212; less than 3V.  This battery may not resuscitate, but at least the charger will be there and ready for the next one.</p>
<p><a href="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2011/07/04/DSCN8346.jpg"><img src="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2011/07/04/DSCN8346_mid.jpg" alt="Solar trickle charger on bus dashboard" /></a></p>
<p>During the afternoon the dashboard was in shade, but the charger still read about 17V open-circuit.  With it plugged in, I immediately measured over 5V at the battery.  Although it obviously hasn&#8217;t charged the battery that much that fast, it&#8217;s a good sign.</p>
<hr/>
<em>Updates</em></p>
<table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 align=center>
<tr>
<th>Date</th>
<th>Voltage</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>04-Jul (pm)</td>
<td>2.79</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>04-Jul 18:34</td>
<td>5.43</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>05-Jul 17:57</td>
<td>8.00</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>06-Jul 19:23</td>
<td>6.90 *</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>10-Jul 17:06</td>
<td>9.01</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>11-Jul 18:01</td>
<td>9.12</td>
</tr>
</table>
<p>* The positive terminal cable clamp had been cracked and broke off from flexing on 06-Jul.  Replaced 09-Jul.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus/?feed=rss2&#038;p=169</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>4</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Serious Paint Removal Attempt #1: Too Fast!</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus/?p=49</link>
		<comments>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus/?p=49#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>neufeld</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Electrical]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Paint]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus/?p=49</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I got a 4&#8243; disc wire brush for my angle grinder, thinking it would strip paint a lot faster than the cordless drill. It did &#8212; it stripped down to bare metal when I barely touched it to the bus! I suspect the original primer is a lot better than anything I can buy, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2009/06/13/DSCN4170.JPG"><img src="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2009/06/13/DSCN4170_mid.jpg" alt="Stripping paint down to bare metal" /></a></p>
<p>I got a 4&#8243; disc wire brush for my angle grinder, thinking it would strip paint a lot faster than the cordless drill.  It did &#8212; it stripped down to bare metal when I barely touched it to the bus!</p>
<p>I suspect the original primer is a lot better than anything I can buy, and certainly better applied, so I really don&#8217;t want to remove it; I want to leave the primer and maybe even yellow paint to cover with my own paint job.</p>
<p>If I did want to strip to bare metal, the brush I was using in the angle grinder would be great.  For this job, I&#8217;ll see if I can find a finer brush for the grinder.</p>
<p>Also I need to find one with a 5/8&#8243; arbor.  Drilling a 1/2&#8243; arbor out to 5/8&#8243; causes separation of the metal plates formerly holding the wire pieces together.  Careful application of the angle grinder&#8217;s arbor plates gets the wires held pretty securely &#8212; and remarkably concentric on the first try &#8212; but that&#8217;s no way to really do it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2009/06/13/DSCN4180.jpg"><img src="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2009/06/13/DSCN4180_mid.jpg" alt="Bus with a few linear feet of purple paint stripped" /></a></p>
<p>I switched to the &#8220;wire brush on a stick&#8221; in my corded drill and got a few linear feet of above-the-rail stripped.  Took over an hour and it really wasn&#8217;t worth the effort.</p>
<h4>Battery Compartment and AC Wiring</h4>
<p><a href="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2009/06/13/DSCN4173.jpg"><img src="http://www2.neufeld.newton.ks.us/images/bus/2009/06/13/DSCN4173_mid.jpg" alt="Bus battery compartment and AC wiring" /></a></p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t leaned down far enough to really look in, so Jonathan was the original discoverer of the AC wiring sticking into the battery compartment.  I&#8217;m guessing the former owner had an inverter installed in there &#8212; which I just read is a bad idea, as the battery acid fumes can eat up the delicate inverter guts.  Maybe I&#8217;ll put mine in a separate compartment.</p>
<h4>But What Will the Neighbors Think?</h4>
<p>My neighbors saw the bus this afternoon for the first time.  The folks next door think it&#8217;s really cool and a great idea.  The man of the house from two doors down came over to say that &#8220;The Landing Strip&#8221; (painted on the front of the bus) is a bar in Aggieville (Manhattan), which gives a clue as to the provenance and likely former owner of the bus.</p>
<p>The best reaction was from the young couple across the street.  As they were halfway across, they were already calling out that their curiosity had got the better of them; and they gushed about how cool the bus is and asked all kinds of questions.  They let their four young kids explore the inside of the bus, and didn&#8217;t mind at all that they were enthralled by the dead baby mice.  They&#8217;re all very enthusiastic about the project and the prospects and think it&#8217;s great!</p>
<p>This was, of course, before I backed into their mailbox, as one of the part-time police officers I don&#8217;t know came driving down the street.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/bus/?feed=rss2&#038;p=49</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>4</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
