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	<title>Comments on: Temperature Deviation Alarm Board for PID Crockpot Controller</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 05:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been using the same controller successfully until the worst possible moment!  We had a table at the Kitsap Mini Maker Faire in Poulsbo, Washington and were going to serve sous vide eggs as a demonstration of the technology.

Six dozen eggs went into the turkey fryer the night before the fair.  And we woke up to six dozen extremely hard boiled eggs!  The PID controller had failed with a flashing  o o o o on the display and the output full on!

That error indicates a failed thermocouple.  A quick swap-out with a new T/C and the error was the same.

A failure with $10 of eggs isn&#039;t so bad, except for the Murphy&#039;s-Law timing of it, but if it had been a nice piece of beef, the damage could have been far worse.

Here&#039;s a brief article about the failure and the fair:
http://digital-diy.com/Electronics-Blog/the-kitsap-mini-maler-faire.html

I suspect that whatever great programming fails with the output on may fail to turn on the over temperature alarm too....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been using the same controller successfully until the worst possible moment!  We had a table at the Kitsap Mini Maker Faire in Poulsbo, Washington and were going to serve sous vide eggs as a demonstration of the technology.</p>
<p>Six dozen eggs went into the turkey fryer the night before the fair.  And we woke up to six dozen extremely hard boiled eggs!  The PID controller had failed with a flashing  o o o o on the display and the output full on!</p>
<p>That error indicates a failed thermocouple.  A quick swap-out with a new T/C and the error was the same.</p>
<p>A failure with $10 of eggs isn&#8217;t so bad, except for the Murphy&#8217;s-Law timing of it, but if it had been a nice piece of beef, the damage could have been far worse.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a brief article about the failure and the fair:<br />
<a href="http://digital-diy.com/Electronics-Blog/the-kitsap-mini-maler-faire.html" rel="nofollow">http://digital-diy.com/Electronics-Blog/the-kitsap-mini-maler-faire.html</a></p>
<p>I suspect that whatever great programming fails with the output on may fail to turn on the over temperature alarm too&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Neufeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 02:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, looks like a great tip for SMD work on milled boards!

Unfortunately my worst bridging problems were around through-hole pads, which would be more challenging to mask off with tape. :-(  Taping the board before milling and then peeling the tape off the traces (leaving it on the isolation) seems vaguely interesting, though &#8230;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, looks like a great tip for SMD work on milled boards!</p>
<p>Unfortunately my worst bridging problems were around through-hole pads, which would be more challenging to mask off with tape. <img src='http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   Taping the board before milling and then peeling the tape off the traces (leaving it on the isolation) seems vaguely interesting, though &hellip;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Garfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Garfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

I&#039;ve found soldering milled boards works much easier if you use Kapton tape as a buffer so the solder doesn&#039;t wick. You can see what I mean here: http://www.fromorbit.com/content/finished-smd-ring-oscillator

I&#039;ve had great success with it and I just keep reusing the same pieces until they don&#039;t stick any more.

Cheers,
Alan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found soldering milled boards works much easier if you use Kapton tape as a buffer so the solder doesn&#8217;t wick. You can see what I mean here: <a href="http://www.fromorbit.com/content/finished-smd-ring-oscillator" rel="nofollow">http://www.fromorbit.com/content/finished-smd-ring-oscillator</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had great success with it and I just keep reusing the same pieces until they don&#8217;t stick any more.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Alan.</p>
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