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	<title>Comments on: Project Idea: Solar Sidewalk Melter</title>
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		<title>By: Keith Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=198&#038;cpage=1#comment-22600</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jin, very cool!  Thanks a bunch for remembering my project idea and coming back to let me know about this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jin, very cool!  Thanks a bunch for remembering my project idea and coming back to let me know about this!</p>
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		<title>By: Jin</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=198&#038;cpage=1#comment-22599</link>
		<dc:creator>Jin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw this on hackaday, sounds very similar to your sidewalk melter idea:
http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/12/06/sun-track-reflects-light-into-your-home/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw this on hackaday, sounds very similar to your sidewalk melter idea:<br />
<a href="http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/12/06/sun-track-reflects-light-into-your-home/" rel="nofollow">http://hackedgadgets.com/2008/12/06/sun-track-reflects-light-into-your-home/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=198&#038;cpage=1#comment-21200</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Dave!

I shovel my walks, and the sun does a nice job of drying the front walk and melting any residual slush.  I&#039;d be delighted to achieve the same level of meltage on the walk beside the driveway, which in theory should be possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Dave!</p>
<p>I shovel my walks, and the sun does a nice job of drying the front walk and melting any residual slush.  I&#8217;d be delighted to achieve the same level of meltage on the walk beside the driveway, which in theory should be possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=198&#038;cpage=1#comment-21198</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems that you&#039;ll encounter is that snow is quite reflective.  Thus, most of the solar energy you end up directing onto the sidewalk will be reflected back into space.    

I&#039;m wondering if you might not have better luck with a modified version of a system like this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071231/ap_on_hi_te/solar_roads;_ylt=AuEFouXxz16nP8MRlInTJMms0NUE

In the extreme case, you could chip up the existing side walk and pour a new one with heat pipe built into it, with the collector powering them located in a sunny spot, but even a retrofit version which simply collected heat from a sunny location and blew it (via heated air?) onto the sidewalk might work reasonably well.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems that you&#8217;ll encounter is that snow is quite reflective.  Thus, most of the solar energy you end up directing onto the sidewalk will be reflected back into space.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if you might not have better luck with a modified version of a system like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071231/ap_on_hi_te/solar_roads;_ylt=AuEFouXxz16nP8MRlInTJMms0NUE" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071231/ap_on_hi_te/solar_roads;_ylt=AuEFouXxz16nP8MRlInTJMms0NUE</a></p>
<p>In the extreme case, you could chip up the existing side walk and pour a new one with heat pipe built into it, with the collector powering them located in a sunny spot, but even a retrofit version which simply collected heat from a sunny location and blew it (via heated air?) onto the sidewalk might work reasonably well.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=198&#038;cpage=1#comment-21121</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I built a small solr concentrator out of a small satellite dish.
I wanted to motorize it but never got around to it.
Check out this great link for a bunch of solar trackers though!
http://www.redrok.com/electron.htm#led3x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I built a small solr concentrator out of a small satellite dish.<br />
I wanted to motorize it but never got around to it.<br />
Check out this great link for a bunch of solar trackers though!<br />
<a href="http://www.redrok.com/electron.htm#led3x" rel="nofollow">http://www.redrok.com/electron.htm#led3x</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marcel</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=198&#038;cpage=1#comment-21119</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting... I&#039;m playing with the same idea for solar cooking and heating.  I&#039;m using an Arduino board with a couple of LDRs as a voltage divider then strapping that assembly onto the top of a servo.  The servo is then swung to balance the LDR  at a value of 512 (centre).  I then know where the sun-servo is as an angle so do some simple math to drive another servo carrying a mirror.  With a pot to determine where I want the reflection I .... is this making any sense?

Without some math beyond my ability I&#039;m only bouncing the reflection off within the plane of the track of the sun - not tracking a sidewalk in 3D!

If I get somewhere with it - and get some pics online, I shout.  ;)

[m]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; I&#8217;m playing with the same idea for solar cooking and heating.  I&#8217;m using an Arduino board with a couple of LDRs as a voltage divider then strapping that assembly onto the top of a servo.  The servo is then swung to balance the LDR  at a value of 512 (centre).  I then know where the sun-servo is as an angle so do some simple math to drive another servo carrying a mirror.  With a pot to determine where I want the reflection I &#8230;. is this making any sense?</p>
<p>Without some math beyond my ability I&#8217;m only bouncing the reflection off within the plane of the track of the sun &#8211; not tracking a sidewalk in 3D!</p>
<p>If I get somewhere with it &#8211; and get some pics online, I shout.  <img src='http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[m]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=198&#038;cpage=1#comment-21116</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can bisect the angle using a linkage of four bars in a diamond. One joint is fixed, two are attached to the two trackers, and the fourth points where the mirror should. (It also moves in and out, so you need a slotted fifth bar which the mirror is mounted to the fixed end of.)

If you&#039;d really rather use gears, then you can do it with three bars, the outer two of which have meshing gears at their pivot points.

If these descriptions aren&#039;t sufficient, let me know and I&#039;ll build examples from Lego. Or draw diagrams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can bisect the angle using a linkage of four bars in a diamond. One joint is fixed, two are attached to the two trackers, and the fourth points where the mirror should. (It also moves in and out, so you need a slotted fifth bar which the mirror is mounted to the fixed end of.)</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d really rather use gears, then you can do it with three bars, the outer two of which have meshing gears at their pivot points.</p>
<p>If these descriptions aren&#8217;t sufficient, let me know and I&#8217;ll build examples from Lego. Or draw diagrams.</p>
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