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	<title>Comments on: EAGLE for Circuit Design and PCB Layout</title>
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		<title>By: Lord Neverdie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord Neverdie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 03:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering if Eagle does circuit simulation</description>
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		<title>By: pugly</title>
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		<dc:creator>pugly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith...it is now Jan 2010 and you are still up-to-date.  I&#039;ve been using Express PCB daily and you still need to add every part to the PCB after you&#039;ve drawn the scematic and there is still no ratnest.... only highlighted pads as you route.
Does anybody know if there prices for board fabrication are competative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith&#8230;it is now Jan 2010 and you are still up-to-date.  I&#8217;ve been using Express PCB daily and you still need to add every part to the PCB after you&#8217;ve drawn the scematic and there is still no ratnest&#8230;. only highlighted pads as you route.<br />
Does anybody know if there prices for board fabrication are competative?</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=33&#038;cpage=1#comment-22245</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kip, ExpressPCB has probably progressed quite a bit in over two years since I tried it.  So I&#039;ll try to explain EAGLE in a way that makes sense for what I used to know of ExpressPCB; and forgive me if things are different now.

When I used ExpressPCB, you had to add the parts to the board yourself.  EAGLE (and other, more-expensive, professional design programs) &lt;em&gt;automatically&lt;/em&gt; build a schematic and a board at the same time.  You have two windows open; and when you add a part to the schematic, it automatically adds it (off to the side) to the board as well.

Related, EAGLE (and other software) uses &quot;ratlines&quot; on the circuit board to indicate connections that exist on the schematic but still need to be routed on the board.  Again, as soon as you add a connection on the schematic, EAGLE adds a ratline on the PCB directly from endpoint to endpoint, kind of a like a rubber band that&#039;s connected to the two ends and will stretch a straight line from one to the other as you move them around..

You select the &quot;routing&quot; tool and click on a ratline you want to turn into a trace, and you can start clicking point to point to route it.  You can leave off mid-way through and the ratline runs from the end of your routed section to wherever it&#039;s supposed to go.

Also, automatically after certain operations and manually on demand, EAGLE will recalculate ratlines and move them to the shortest path between two nets.  So it won&#039;t always be your preferred path; but it&#039;s pretty handy that you&#039;re visually seeing a preview of the shortest set of connections that would get the job done.

Finally, EAGLE does have design and error check tools that will guarantee that the PCB matches the circuit, doesn&#039;t have any yet-to-be-routed traces, and meets certain design rules such as minimum distance between traces, traces to pads, traces and pads to the edge of the PCB, etc.

I think that addresses everything you were asking; but if you have more questions, I&#039;ll be happy to give them a shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kip, ExpressPCB has probably progressed quite a bit in over two years since I tried it.  So I&#8217;ll try to explain EAGLE in a way that makes sense for what I used to know of ExpressPCB; and forgive me if things are different now.</p>
<p>When I used ExpressPCB, you had to add the parts to the board yourself.  EAGLE (and other, more-expensive, professional design programs) <em>automatically</em> build a schematic and a board at the same time.  You have two windows open; and when you add a part to the schematic, it automatically adds it (off to the side) to the board as well.</p>
<p>Related, EAGLE (and other software) uses &#8220;ratlines&#8221; on the circuit board to indicate connections that exist on the schematic but still need to be routed on the board.  Again, as soon as you add a connection on the schematic, EAGLE adds a ratline on the PCB directly from endpoint to endpoint, kind of a like a rubber band that&#8217;s connected to the two ends and will stretch a straight line from one to the other as you move them around..</p>
<p>You select the &#8220;routing&#8221; tool and click on a ratline you want to turn into a trace, and you can start clicking point to point to route it.  You can leave off mid-way through and the ratline runs from the end of your routed section to wherever it&#8217;s supposed to go.</p>
<p>Also, automatically after certain operations and manually on demand, EAGLE will recalculate ratlines and move them to the shortest path between two nets.  So it won&#8217;t always be your preferred path; but it&#8217;s pretty handy that you&#8217;re visually seeing a preview of the shortest set of connections that would get the job done.</p>
<p>Finally, EAGLE does have design and error check tools that will guarantee that the PCB matches the circuit, doesn&#8217;t have any yet-to-be-routed traces, and meets certain design rules such as minimum distance between traces, traces to pads, traces and pads to the edge of the PCB, etc.</p>
<p>I think that addresses everything you were asking; but if you have more questions, I&#8217;ll be happy to give them a shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kip Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kip Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To date I&#039;ve laid out 10-20 boards using ExpressPcb.  I also like their software, but am now looking at board manufacture and assembly requiring Gerber files.  So I&#039;,m looking for something else that&#039;s not too pricey.

I really like the ExpressPcb netlist schematic-to-board checker.  Using this tool I never had an electrically incorrect board.

Do programs such as Eagle have this type of netlist check function. If not, what do they do to ensure your schematic compares electrically with the pcb?

Thanks,
Kip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To date I&#8217;ve laid out 10-20 boards using ExpressPcb.  I also like their software, but am now looking at board manufacture and assembly requiring Gerber files.  So I&#8217;,m looking for something else that&#8217;s not too pricey.</p>
<p>I really like the ExpressPcb netlist schematic-to-board checker.  Using this tool I never had an electrically incorrect board.</p>
<p>Do programs such as Eagle have this type of netlist check function. If not, what do they do to ensure your schematic compares electrically with the pcb?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Kip</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Neufeld</title>
		<link>http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=33&#038;cpage=1#comment-22148</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Neufeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruben, are you asking for a circuit emulator?  EAGLE doesn&#039;t provide that; it&#039;s only a schematic and board layout drawing program.  Look for something like Multisim or a variant of SPICE if you want to do emulation.

Of course, another answer is to breadboard the circuit before you draw it, and build a prototype board afterward to see whether you drew it right .&#160;.&amp;nbsp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruben, are you asking for a circuit emulator?  EAGLE doesn&#8217;t provide that; it&#8217;s only a schematic and board layout drawing program.  Look for something like Multisim or a variant of SPICE if you want to do emulation.</p>
<p>Of course, another answer is to breadboard the circuit before you draw it, and build a prototype board afterward to see whether you drew it right .&nbsp;.&#038;nbsp.</p>
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		<title>By: ruben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear sir,
        i would like to know, if i have a circuit diagram designed on the eagle software.. how do i test if it works if its implemented? would be really happy if u can reply me the answer... thanks alot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear sir,<br />
        i would like to know, if i have a circuit diagram designed on the eagle software.. how do i test if it works if its implemented? would be really happy if u can reply me the answer&#8230; thanks alot</p>
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		<title>By: macaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>macaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried WinQCAD?  It has a great autorouter, produces Gerber files, and is easy to use.  There&#039;s a free version available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried WinQCAD?  It has a great autorouter, produces Gerber files, and is easy to use.  There&#8217;s a free version available.</p>
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