Comments on: Buying and Assessing a Crumar T2 Organ

By: Tom P

Tom P — Fri, 15 Dec 2017 03:56:52 +0000

A little late to the party I guess, but here goes… I used a Crumar T2 back in the late 70s/early 80s. It did sound really good (run through a leslie combo preamp and a model 45 leslie) but it did suffer from the same problem soundwise as the early korg clonewheels – since it did not have the foldback like a real hammond, it could get a little brittle sounding in the high end. A note for anyone wanting to gig with one of these: I bought my T2 brand new and gigged regularly with it. Even before the warranty ran out I started having problems with it sometimes not turning on or randomly shutting off in the middle of a gig. I found that if I slapped it REALLY HARD on the bottom it often (but not always) turned back on. My dealer could not figure out what the problem was. After consulting with Crumar, they replaced “everything that could possibly cause the problem” (twice! under warranty, wouldn’t touch it after the warranty ran out) but to no avail. I finally bit the bullet and got a B2/122 and traded in the T2 on a synth. I heard later that the main circuit board in the T2 was not supported very well, and if you moved it a lot (like I did) the board could flex and cause circuit tracings to crack resulting in intermittent open circuits that are VERY hard to track down. Not sure if this is true or not, just thought you all would like to know.

By: Luna_surface

Luna_surface — Sun, 27 Nov 2016 03:06:38 +0000

Hi, thanks for all this great info you’ve posted! I have a t2, and was wondering how the tuning knob at the back works? Does it allow for individual tuning of each note like a piano? I want to tune it using just intonation if possible. Any help you could offer would be appreciated

By: FINERS CRYER

FINERS CRYER — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 10:24:20 +0000

I HAAVE A T1, A T2, AND A T3. I LOST THE T3 IN A HURRICANE. THE STUDIO WAS DESTROYED BY TREES FALLING ON IT. I HAVE THE T2 WITH A 147 LESLIE. IT NOT ONLY SOUNDS AS GOOD AS MY OLD B3, IT IS A LOT EASIER TO MIOVE. HOEVER I AM LOOKING FOR BASS PEDALS FOR THIS INSTRUMENT. I PLAY A LOT OF GOSPEL CONCERTS AND ALSO RECORDING. IF SOMEONE OUT THERE HAS THESE PEDALS, OR SOME THAT WOULD FIT, PLEASE EMAIL ME AT CRYERF@BELLSOUTH.NET

By: Joel

Joel — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 23:16:29 +0000

anybody know where to find a replacement key (A) for a Crumar T1?

By: Charles

Charles — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:47:29 +0000

Hi peamet

I have also recently bought a cheap Crumar T2 and also need the schematics. Did you not see the link in the earlier post (www.wdgreenhill.com)? I just send them an email and will let you know how I get on.

I see you’re in Germany, I am too (although i’m actually English). Do you know of any repair techs in the NRW region? My T2 has died on me, I would really like to get it repaired and I have no experience of (or knowledge about) repairing organs. If it doesn’t sound too difficult i’ll give it a try but I would need some advice on what to replace, do you know anything about repairs?

By: peamet

peamet — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:39:09 +0000

Hi folks,

today i got my Crumar T2, wonderful organ from what i heared till now. I shot it at ebay for (be sure to sit comfortably) only 30€ !!! but without bass pedal of course. Unfortunately some Keys (the Cs and Fs) dont work, so i´ll have to repair it. (hardly surprising with an age of over 30 years). So i`m in a despaired need for the schematic. So please, can anybody help me to restaurate this wonderful instrument by sending me the stuff? i´ll keep you updated…

Thanks alot,
peamet

peamet@web.de

By: Geierberg

Geierberg — Sun, 09 May 2010 11:11:45 +0000

Important differences between Organizer 2 (also has been sold as Haven 61) and T2 are as follows.
With T2 you get much better hard rock sound while the sound of the 2 is much softer and seems to be made for dancing music in the 70ies.
The Organizer 2 has been developed earlier (I guess 1975). Each key has still individual mechanical contacts per drawbar that means 9 contacts per key for the UM and 6 per key for the LM. Resulting from this you get the interessing key click sound effect of the classic Hammonds. Especially if the keys are pressed slowly you hear the typical Hammond effect that the pitches of the selected drawbars do not start at the same moment. And this effect is different for each individual key. I like my Organizer 2 especially because of this “non-perfect” vintage sound effect.
With T2 technical development (1978) has removed multi mechanical contacts.

By: Keith Neufeld

Keith Neufeld — Wed, 05 May 2010 19:15:17 +0000

GURU1979, I’m not familiar with the Organizer, sorry!

By: GURU1979

GURU1979 — Tue, 04 May 2010 07:44:25 +0000

Hey…what are the differences between the organizer 2 and the T2?
I know that T2 has a 5 octave lower manual and a bass – sinth section, while the organizer 2 has 4 piano sounds and a rythm section..but soundwise?
Tnx

By: Geierberg

Geierberg — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:09:29 +0000

Thomas, did you meanwhile get the Crumar organizer diagrams? if not yet – they are available at http://www.wdgreenhill.com/manu/crumar.htm.
Also many vintage parts are on stock in UK.
I recently bought a Crumar Organizer 2 and now I am looking for a T2 as well. I ordered the schematics for my Crumar at Greenhill for about 15 Euro.